N.G. Order Your Conversations Aright


Tonight’s subject is, “Order Your Conversations Aright.” As we are told in the 50th
Psalm: “To him that ordereth his conversation aright will I show the salvation of
God.” (Psalm 50:23, KJV1)
Have we any instructions in Scripture concerning how we order our conversations
aright? We do have it in the 4th chapter of Ephesians. We are told, “Put off your
old nature which belongs to your former conversations … and put on the new
nature,”(Ephesians 4:22, 24, RSV2) except for the word “conversations,” which
occurs only in the King James Version.
If the “old Nature” belongs to the “former conversations,” then the “new nature”
has to have new conversations. “Put on the new nature, created after the image of
God.” (Ephesians 4:24 RSV)
Well, now, what is this nature? “Nature is that principle upon which we depend for
sameness of form in transmitted life.”
If my conversations determine the things that project themselves upon the screen
ofspace in my world – until I change my conversations, I cannot change the forms.
For that is the principle upon which man depends for the “sameness of forms in
transmitted life.” If these forms that come out – good, bad and indifferent – are the
results of my conversations, then I must change my conversations.
We are told in an ancient book – a book written in the First Century – I have a
translation by Walter Scott; it is called “The Hermetica,” and in it is said, “God has
given two gifts to man alone, and to no other mortal creature. These gifts are Mind
and Speech. And these gifts, if used rightly, will differ in nothing from the
Immortals.” Now, when man takes off the body – when he quits the body, they will
be his guides, and by them he will be led into the Troop of the Gods, and into the
souls of those who attain to bliss.”
Only to man is the gift given of Mind and Speech. Now I could tell you the story of
how easy it is to do, but in the doing, may I tell you, it really is difficult. You will
think, “Why, certainly I can change my conversations, and then remain faithful to
the change.” But we are such creatures of habit
So, Shakespeare could say, in “The Merchant of Venice,” where he put the words
into the mouth of Portia: “If to do were as easy as to know what were good to do,
then chapels had been churches, and poor men’s cottages princes’ palaces. It is a
good divine that follows his own instructions; I can easier teach twenty what were
good to be done, than to be one of the twenty to follow mine own teaching.” [Act I,
Scene II]
So, it’s simple on the surface, but in practice it is not as simple as it appears to be.
But if man could only take an inner conversation and control it – a conversation
which implies the fulfillment of his dream – and remain faithful to that inner
conversation, this inner dialogue – a controlled inner dialogue – possibly could be
the most fruitful conversation in your life.
Man talks all day long inwardly. He may restrain the impulse to say it outwardly.
He may feel like saying it, but he has cultivated – he’s an educated person; he feels
himself under restraint. He might feel like telling you to go to the devil, but he
restrains the impulse to say it audibly. But he has said it! It was born with the
If I could only now take my objective in this world and dare to assume that I’ve
achieved it, and then carry on conversations – inner conversations – from the
premise of that assumption, I should put this to the test and prove it. Would it really
achieve a change of form in my world? I am telling you from my own experience,
it does. It absolutely does!
As we are told in Isaiah, the 55th chapter: “And the word that goes forth from my
mouth shall not return unto me void; it must accomplish that which I purpose, and
prosper in the thing for which I sent it.” (Isaiah 55:11)
But you will say, “This is the Lord speaking, and certainly the Lord can do that.”
Well, now, let me quote the last words of David as said in the 23d chapter of II
Samuel – and these are the last words of David: “The Spirit of the Lord is upon
me, his word upon my tongue.” (II Samuel 23:2) The “Spirit of the Lord” – he
never had that revelation until that moment. He realizes now that all along
everything on his tongue was the Lord speaking!
“The Lord speaks by me, and his word is upon my tongue.” (II Samuel 23:2) The
word “Lord,” as we told you earlier in this series – if it in any way conveys the
sense of an external something, external to your own being, you have the wrong
lord. If the words “Jesus Christ” convey the sense of an existent something outside
of man, you have the wrong Jesus Christ! For Jesus Christ is in us, and if He is in
us, and by Him all things are made and without Him was not anything made that is
made, and He is called the “Word of God,” and you understand that the very word
was created by the Word of God – and David tells us that God is upon his tongue.
The very Word of God is upon his tongue. Then we are told: “I am the Lord. There
is no other god. Beside Me there is no god.” (Isaiah 45:5)
Isit true? Well, you and I are called upon to put it to the test. Can I actually now,
this very moment, construct a simple conversation, which, if it is true, will involve
that I realize my objective? Can I then be faithful to that conversation, or will I
wander from it? Well, I’m telling you, it’s very difficult! It seems so simple. I
certainly could take a little conversation between a friend and myself in a dialogue
and tell him that all things are, as I would like them to be; that I have this goal and
that goal, and “Do you realize, I have realized it?” It all came so simply and so
naturally; it all fell into place. Could you really believe that?
Well, the thing is to try it. See how long you can carry on that conversation without
wandering away. I’ve tried it over and over. Every time that I am successful in
keeping it to where I demand in words – but again to quote Shakespeare: “It is a
great virtue, and the one who can do it, it is a noble virtue” to follow your own
instruction. So, I can teach you. It is easy – far “easier to teach twenty what were
good to be done, than to be one of the twenty to follow mine own teaching.”
But now let me share with you a story I know well, the story of my father. He was
born a very poor white man in the Island of Barbados. My mother was born poor.

She had nothing; he had nothing. And they proceeded to have children. Twelve
children were born; two died at birth. Ten survived. He had nothing. How he got
hold of this, I do not know, but the first time he heard me speak in New York City
was a Sunday morning, and when we went back to the apartment, he said, “You
know, everything you said this morning is true. But why do you tell the people to
close their eyes? Don’t close your eyes. Keep them partly shut. You can control
your imagination and you can control your attention better if the eyes are not
completely closed. When you see me in the morning after breakfast reclining in my
chair, you might think that I am just sleeping it off – because he’s a heavy drinker.
“You might think I’m simply sleeping it off. I am not sleeping off anything. I am
doing my day’s work then! I bring before my mind’s eye the men that I want to
deal with that day, and I control the conversation. I tell them exactly what I want to
tell them, as though it were true. I let them tell me – confirm that it is true, and then
when I am completely satisfied with my inner conversation, then I go to town. And
it works that way.”
Now, he started behind the 8-ball. He had himself, my mother, my grandmother,
and the ten of us to feed, plus a few servants. It was not easy. But when he died in
1959, he could leave his ten children – because my mother preceded him by many
years, and he never remarried. She died in ’41, and he said, “No, I’ve been so
blissfully happy with your Mother, I could not ever get married again,” so he
remained single until he died at the age of 85. But when he died, that poor man
could leave a family of ten independently wealthy – each, not just collectively. He
gave it to each individually as a block of stock in the company, just to the ten of us.
In 1951 it was then equal to an independent income for each of us. It has tripled
since he gave it to us when he died in 1959, under the control of my brother Victor,
who practices the same thing.
Victor doesn’t smoke and he doesn’t drink, but he sits alone, and in his room he,
too, is carrying on his little inner conversations – premises of desires fulfilled. And
he can completely control that imagination of his. He can completely control the
inner conversation, and things work just as he has determined them. He never goes
to church. He’s a religious man in the true sense of the word. He gives generously
to charity and to all people – you would never know how many people he helps in
the Island because he doesn’t publicize it. That works for him because he has found
out inner conversations will do it.
So then, we are told, “To him who orders his conversations aright, I will show the
salvation of God!” (Psalm 50:23) Then we are told how to do it: “Put off your old
nature which belongs to your former conversations.” (Ephesians 4:22) And you
know how, day after day, there are certain people who will run the same thing like
a record, and do it over and over and over and when you meet them, they start just
where they left off the last time that you talked with them. They tell the same story
over and over and over. “How rotten she is to me!” or “How rotten he is to me!”
And after one solid year when you return to the City, they take up just where they
left off before! And they wonder, “Why are these things happening to me?” Well,
here in the greatest book in the world we are told why. For, if my conversation
determines my nature – my nature is that principle upon which I depend for the
sameness of forms in transmitted life – how can I change the form when the form
is dependent upon my inner conversation?
So, my inner conversation is actually determining the entire thing, but man thinks
it was only some external being called God whose word could not return to him
void; that it had to prosper in the thing for which it was sent, (See Isaiah 55:11)
because he has divorced himself from God. God’s name forever and forever and
forever is I AM. He said, “That is my name forever, and by that name I shall be
known throughout all generations.” (Exodus 3:15)
Well, before you were given the name John or Mary, you had God’s name. God’s
name is I AM. That should precede the name you now use as John, for should I ask
you, “What is your name?” before you say, “John,” you are going to say, “I am,”
and you are going to say, “I am John.” So you preceded the little mask called John
and declared that I am. Well, that’s God’s name! So, that is the One spoken of in
Scripture Whose word cannot return void, but must accomplish that which He
purposed. It must prosper in the thing for which He sent it.
You may say, “How simple this thing is. You mean, I could start tonight? I don’t go
to church; I am not a religious person. I have done nothing in the world. But do
you mean, I have that talent?”
Isthis the being of whom Hermes spoke when he said, “God gave a gift to man
and to no other creature. And this gift is Mind and Speech”? Well, I can talk, and I
have a mind. And then he tells me that speech reflects mind, and mind reflects
God, that as man, so is God. As is God, so man. And if God reflects my mind, and
my mind reflects my speech, to change any production in my world, I’ve got to
change the speech!
So, it is simply that the mind reflects it. And the mind reflects God. So, my God
goes back, then, to my speech! So, I am simply reproducing the same old story in
my world when I could easily change the record.
Back in 1953 my wife had a vision. It was an audio-vision. She jumped out of bed
and came into the living room. I always rise early. She came barging through
looking for the dictionary, and she said, “I’ve just had the most wonderful
experience. I saw nothing, but I heard the most wonderful voice – a voice of
authority. And the voice said to me, ‘You must stop spending your thoughts, time,
and your money. Everything in life must be an investment.’”
So,she wanted to see the difference between spending and investing. According to
the definition in the dictionary that she had at the time: When you spend, you give
out without any hope of return; it’s a waste to spend. When you invest, you expect
a return on equity. When you invest, you always expect a return on your equity. So
you must stop spending and everything you do from now on must be invested –
and it stated what they are: your thoughts, your time, and your money. These are
three things that man thinks he has in abundance, and he is spending them
morning, noon and night. He wastes his time in trivia. He wastes his thoughts. He
wastes his money.
So, if this vision of hers is actually put into practice – and she is the first one to
admit that she does not practice it; she was the instrument through which it came,
but she would be the first one to admit that, raised as she was, in the most
conservative environment, that she doesn’t really live it, because she lives a
restrained life. She would think it only becoming a lady to express herself – well, I
would say – openly. She feels it, and she knows now that she was thinking of
saying it, but she restrained the impulse. She said it anyway, and she knows now
that her body is an emotional filter, and it bears the marks of her prevalent
So, all day long you and I are making – little tiny speech movements are being
made in us. We are not hearing them audibly, but the inner ear hears them. So, I
need not hear them on the outside, and no one need hear them, but I see the results
in my world. My whole vast world could not bear anything other than my speech

That’s what the Book teaches! I must “put off the old nature,” it belongs to my
former conversations. And then it tells me, “Now ‘put on the new nature.’”
The “old nature” belongs to my former conversations; the “new nature” belongs to
my new conversations. Can I put on the new and make it so natural that I will do
with that as I did with the former one? And can I, now, so completely change the
record and play it often enough that it becomes a habit, within me as I walk the
earth, so that things are perfect? So that things are easy? So that when I read the
headline of a market crash, it doesn’t disturb me? So, when I read the headline that
something has “gone to pot,” it does not disturb me inwardly?

Since this is based upon Principle, it doesn’t matter what happens in the world,
because the world is simply the outpouring of the conversations of men and
women in the world. If I change my conversation in the midst of a depression, I am
still going to be successful in my world. There are men today that were hugely
successful when millions lost so much during the depressed market!
They are not concerned about the market; they don’t watch the market at all. But
they must be controlling their inner conversation.
I know in my father’s case, he was a living example. My Brother Victor is a living
example of this technique, but I don’t think my father taught it to him. He really
got it innately, because he told me that when he saw the sign on a building that had
the name P. N. Roach and Company, he made it spell “J. N. Goddard & Sons.”
When he confided to my Mother, my Mother said, “Vic, don’t do it. We have no
money, and it’s only going to hurt you. You can never own that building.” Two
years later the building was up for sale; the business that was in it failed.
A total stranger came in. When I say, “total stranger” – he knew us only as a
family, but he had never come to our home for a cup of tea.

We were never entertained in his home for a cup of tea, and he was not a drinking partner of my father. He knew him. The day it went up for sale, he came in and said that he would buy it for us. All he would take as collateral was our signature, for we had
invested in it our honesty and the bank assured him that if we pledged ourselves,
we would do it. If we had to starve to pay his note, we would do it.
He said, “That’s all I need, so if you will sign this piece of paper, I’ll buy the
building. I will have my lawyer bid for it. If I bid for it, they will bid me up, but if
my lawyer bids for it, he represents more than one client, and they do not know
who he represents today. They wouldn’t think for one second that a planter – he
was a planter – that he would bid for a business on Main Street which carries
So, that day the Goddards owned it, and all we had to give was our signature on
that paper that we signed. And he said to reduce the principle in ten years, and as
you reduce it, you simply pay 6 per cent on the principle; if you keep on reducing
it every year, in ten years it must be completely paid off. Well, it was. And when he
died, twenty years later, he said his greatest friend was Victor Goddard, and he left
him an estate in excess of a quarter of a million, tax-free. Everything was
completely paid off when he gave that to my Brother Victor. He said, “You have
been my friend.”

So,I know that today we have at least one member of the family who does put this
into practice. I try to the best of my ability to practice it, because I get requests
morning, noon and night in my mail asking me to hear this, hear that, and hear the
other. I never fail to hear it. I try not to dwell upon it after I have heard it. I must
believe that what I have heard must come to pass, as told us in the First Epistle of
John in the 5th chapter: “If we know that He hears us in whatever we ask, we know
we have obtained the request made of Him” (I John 5:15) What a challenge!
“If we know that He hears us in whatever we ask – no restraint upon the things we
ask for, then – “we know we have…” There’s the past tense. “We have obtained
the requests made of Him.” Read it in the 5th chapter, 15th verse, of the First
Epistle of John. Well, what a fantastic promise to make to man!
I don’t have, then, to keep it going. It’s like putting the seed down and having full
confidence in the planting of that seed, for it contains within itself the power of
self-expression. The Word of God is like the Seed of God, and it is planted at that
moment that you actually carry on the conversation.

So,I bring before my mind’s eye the one who has asked of me if I know them. If I
do not know them, I imagine that I have heard from them. They will not always
confirm it, but I imagine they wrote me and thanked me.
But as we are told in Scripture: There were ten who received the gift. They were all
lepers. Only one turned back and said, “Thank you.” But the nine went on, and
they got their help, but never turned back to say, “Thank you.” (See Luke 17:12-
19) So, it doesn’t really matter as far as I am concerned. I do my work. They may
never write to tell me that it worked, but quite often I meet them, maybe a year
later, or three or four years later, and they will say, “You know, so-and-so
happened.” I ask them, “Do you know why it happened? Then they will give me
the means that were employed, and tell me that is why it happened.

Mrs. Archibald Roosevelt, who was just killed in an automobile accident in New
York City – she would come home once a month. This was always a problem with
her family – never her husband, but her children and in-laws. One day she said to
me, “My son has returned from Egypt, and he has an enormous beard, and I am so
ashamed to walk down the street with him.” Here was this young, good-looking lad
– now, this was before the hippies when people began to grow long hair and
beards. He was unique. So, I said, “Now, Mrs. Roosevelt, you know what a kiss of
yourson would be like without the beard, don’t you?” “Oh, yes,” she said. “Well,
kiss him and he doesn’t have a beard. Put your arms around him, and kiss your son,
and see the nice, smooth skin and feel it.” “Well,” she said, “I’ll do it.”
Well, she never once told me, but because of her position in the world, I read in the
morning paper – on a Monday morning. Here was this big spread of a wedding. He
got married on Sunday, a smooth-skinned lad, Mrs. Roosevelt, Archie Roosevelt,
the bride – the whole gang of them. When she came the next time, I said, “You
know, your son has shaved his beard.” She said, “Yes. Do you know why? You
know, he married a girl who disliked it. Because she completely disliked it, he
shaved it off.” I said, “So that’s why it happened? Tell me, Mrs. Roosevelt, did you
do what I asked you to do?” and I reminded her of what I had asked. She said, “Oh,
yes, I did that, but why he did it was the girl.” You see, they always go back to the
means employed. The girl could have loved him just as much with the beard, but
she had to initiate the drive. He shaved it off, and then the mother gave full credit
to the girl.
I have seen so many things happen and they never turn back, but forget. We have a
very short memory. We do not remember when we set in motion the events or
when we planted the seed. So, if nothing comes into this world by accident – it is
produced by some principle, and the principle is told in this talk tonight, and the
principle is simply our conversation – our little simple inner conversations when
we are alone.

The conversation when you are putting on a mask and meet some one
at a cocktail party and you are all lying – everybody is lying; you have a few
martinis and this one lies, that one lies. Little do they know that what they are
doing is a lie. But I don’t mean that; I mean when you are alone.
Knowing this principle, it doesn’t really matter if what appears now to be a lie –
you know, an assumption, though false, if persisted in will harden into fact. So,
now you are going to put that principle into operation. We will take an assumption.
I will assume that things are, as I want them to be. Now I will carry on a
conversation based upon that assumption, and that controlled inner conversation
will be possibly my greatest success – my greatest conversation ever – far, far
greater than the conversations that we hold at a dinner party.

You sit down, and here is a dinner. You are not going to tell your host that thing is
horrible, are you? But anyway, you wonder what on earth possessed her to make
this. But you don’t say it because that would be unkind. But you did say it anyway;
you said it inwardly.
But I am speaking now of this productive principle. When you are alone and you
know exactly what you want for yourself or for a friend or for the community.
Then what conversation would imply that you have yours, she has hers and the
community has its? Well, carry on with that conversation. If this statement in the
4th chapter of Ephesians is correct, then it should prove itself in the testing: that if I
could put off my old nature, which refers to my former conversations – don’t just
put it off, because I cannot live in a void, but put on the new nature. If the old is
related to my former conversations, well, then, my new nature must be related to
my new conversation. (See Ephesians 4:22-24) Well, I will start a new
conversation, and talk with my brother Victor and tell him of the success I am
having. This is going to amuse him, because he likes success. He loves success in
the world of Caesar.
He thinks that what I do – well, he would not say it’s insane – he doesn’t
understand it. He says, “I have one thing to do in the world of Caesar. We are a
large family, but I have no children of my own. I am the one that’s a mule,” he
says. “All you fellows seem to be bulls, but I am a mule – I have no children. So, I
have to make it, in the event you fellows will need it.” Well, we aren’t going to
need it, but he keeps on making it. So, he enjoys money. He enjoys making it. He
enjoys actually doing things in a big way. He thinks in a big way. And he does it by
inner conversations. And he started, I’d say, behind the 8-ball when as a poor white
family in little Barbados, or in any of the islands, for that matter, because the white
man who has it ignores the white man who hasn’t anything.

A white man in
Barbados has to put on shoes. A Negro in Barbados can go without shoes; he can
go without a jacket, and they will tolerate that. But they will not tolerate that from
a poor, poor white man. So, I know what I talk about. We were as poor as they
come. Today no one tops them in Barbados regarding money, and they all come to
him for advice. Those who thought they had it; they come to Victor. They don’t
venture anything – not even the government – until they come to Victor. They
value his opinion. He gets a piece of it all. “If they want my advice, I’ll take a
piece of their stock. Give me a block of stock and you’ll get my advice.” So, he has
stock here, stock there, stock everywhere. And, so, that’s Victor. He loves it.

I tell him that I do my work alone, and I love it. I love this as he loves making
money. Fortunately for me, I don’t have to go to him for advice!
So, here, I spoke of two men tonight: my father and my brother, and they do it by
inner conversations. But the Bible supports it. If the Bible did not support it, I
wouldn’t tell you, but the Bible supports what they are doing. How they found it, I
do not know. My father – the only book he ever read was the Bible. I wonder if he
got it when he read it?
When I wrote my first book, “Your Faith Is Your Fortune,” I sent the first copy off
the press to my father and mother. When I wrote the inscription, I said, “If there is
such a thing as reincarnation and I have to come back to this world again, I would
ask for nothing greater than to have you two as my parents.” So, Daddy, because of
that inscription, started to look at the book. It has 26 chapters, and each chapter
began with a quote from the Bible, so he closed the book. When I went home a few
years later, I asked, “Daddy, did you read my book?” He said, “Oh, why should I?
You took 26 little verses from the Scripture and wrote a book of 200 pages. I know
the 26 verses.” So, that’s how he said it. “Why should I read it? I know those
verses.” And it’s the one book he always read. Perhaps he did find it – I do not
But we are told to alter our old conversations, and if we do it, He will show us the
salvation of God. Blake, whom I am always quoting, in his book “Jerusalem,” he
says, “Oh, what have I said? What have I done, O All Powerful Human Words!”
You realize that you cannot pull them back, so you said them. Then how are you
going to pull them back?
Now tonight it shouldn’t take you long if you know it’s true – and I know it’s true –
to change the entire world if you put on a new record. And you can easily put on
the new record. Just what would it be like if it were true? And if it were true, would
anyone know? Yes. My wife would know it first, my daughter would know it, and
then my circle would widen. Then my circle of friends would know it. Well, start
with the one you know best first. My wife would know it; I share all things with
her, and then my daughter would know it. So, I carry on a conversation, first with
my wife and then with my daughter Vicki, and then try to make it a lasting
conversation so that it becomes a habit. Instead of going back into the negative,
make it a positive statement, and try to make it so natural in yourself that it’s easy
to pick up that record and put it on. And see how it works in your world. It doesn’t
cost you anything! It costs nothing to do it. And this is what Scripture teaches. And
it cannot but return to you if you know Who-You-Are. And I am trying to convince
every one that I reach that they are God! It’s a shock to them, because they have
been told that they are little worms. You aren’t a little worm!

You are God wearing
a garment of flesh for educative purposes. But you are God! You have His name,
and He will not give His name to another. But He puts you through the furnaces of
affliction to receive His name. You are going through the furnaces.
As Blake says in the statement speaking of those who call God a non-existent
being – he calls them fools as we are told in the Psalm: “The fool says in his heart
‘There is no God.’” (Psalm 14:1 and Psalm 53:1) But Blake calls the fool Babel.
“Babelsays … there is no God or Son of God:
That Thou, O Human Imagination, O Divine Body … are all
A delusion; but I know Thee, O Lord, when Thou arisest upon
My weary eyes, even in this dungeon and this iron mill…
Thou also sufferest with me, although I behold Thee not.”
[Wm. Blake, from “Jerusalem”]
You cannot see your imagination. And he equates human imagination with the
Divine Body of the Lord and the Lord. These three are one, in the eyes of Blake, in
this marvelous poem “Jerusalem.”
So, you can’t see imagination; you see the fruits of imagination. So, no one has
everseen God, because you are the reality called “Imagination.” And you don’t see
imagination, but you see the evidence; you see the fruit of it.
“…And the Divine Voice answers:
…Fear not! Lo, I am with you always, [even to the ends of time]
Only believe in me, that I have power to raise from death
Thy brother who sleeps in Albion.”
[Blake, from “Jerusalem”]
So, who is the brother? You are the brother; I am the brother. Humanity is
“Albion.” And, then, buried in Humanity is the Lord Jesus Christ; and this one is
speaking, saying, “I have power to raise from the dead thy brother who sleeps in
Albion.” But he has not for one moment denied the human imagination as the
Lord. They are equated. They are all one. You have the Lord always with you! You
can’t take imagination and put it out there. Wherever you go, you are always

You cannot leave the Lord behind you! You cannot sit here and wish
imagination away as you can the body. I can stand here and assume that I am at the
end of the room and imagine that I am looking at this one. But where am I? I am in
imagination. I can look at the body as something that I have put away for a while. I
return to it. But I can’t put away imagination. I cannot get away from the Lord,
because, being all imagination, I must be wherever He is in imagination. So, if I
now, in imagination, feel things, as I desire them to be, that’s the Lord doing it.
And because “all things are possible to the Lord,” I must believe in me; I must
believe it is the Lord doing it, as we are told in the last words of David.
“Now these are the last words of David: …The Lord is upon me, his word is upon
my tongue.” (II Samuel 23:1, 2) Then he discovers that that’s why he was
victorious. He never lost a battle. When the giant put on the armor and he had the
sword – and he was a giant and little David comes out only with five feathers.
Theywere not stones! He took five. Well, five is the number of Grace, and Grace is
God’s gift of Himself to man. What other armor does he need, other than the gift of
God? So, he goes on with that. What giant could stand before him when all he
needs is the Grace of God? So, he goes, and the giant comes down. So, he realizes
then that everything he did was done because he went in the Grace of God.
So, wherever you are – you are in a bar – that’s a holy place. Why? Because you are
there! If you go into any place that the world would judge harshly, it is holy
because you are there! And you can sit any place in the world. You don’t have to go
into a church. You can sit at home in any room, sit in the garden; sit any place in
this world and just carry on a conversation with yourself, this controlled dialogue.
This may turn out one day to be the most fruitful conversation that you’ve ever
So, we all need something tonight. We all do, even those who have a billion. They
still want more, and I wouldn’t judge them harshly. They want it. Let them have it,
if they want more, because as Blake said: “More! More! Is the cry of the fool; All
or nothing.” [Wm. Blake, from “There Is No Natural Religion,” second series
And I have covered the 50th chapter of Psalms tonight, and that’s the chapter – you
read it carefully: “If I were hungry, I would not tell you, because the world is mine
“More! More! Is the cry of a mistaken soul; less than ALL cannot satisfy Man.”
[Blake, Proposition V, from “There Is No Natural Religion,” Second Series]
and all within it. (Psalm 50:12)
“The cattle on a thousand hills are mine” (Psalm 50:20). But who is speaking?

Asaph is speaking, and Asaph means, “to gather together.” He has been recalled –
he records all the history of Israel. From the famous 78th Psalm he says: “I will
open my mouth in a parable, and utter dark sayings from of old.” (Psalm 78:2) And
he records the entire history of Israel, and how in spite of all the great things the
Lord did, Israel went astray to false gods. Then we come to the end, and David
appears. The Lord awoke as out of sleep, like a man from strong drink, and He
appoints David. But here is the entire history in a parable; the whole history of
Israel is a parable. It is a story told as if it were true, leaving the one who hears it to
discover its fictitious nature and then extract its meaning.
So, the entire history of Israel, as recorded in Scripture, is not secular history, but it
is divine history. You have to find out what it means behind that story, and when
you find out, it is the most thrilling thing in the world. It’s all about you! As we are
told in the 40th Psalm: “In the volume of the book, it is all about me” (Psalm 40:7)
…I have not restrained my lips;” (Psalm 40:9) I screamed it from the housetops
when I discovered the whole thing was all about me!

The whole Book is all about you. It’s all about you. But it is adumbrated. The
whole thing is an adumbration. Now, when we come to the New Testament, it takes
on a cubic reality. The Old is a rough sketch, but the New Testament takes on a
cubic reality, and it all takes place within you, the individual. Then you will realize
the whole thing is all about you – everything in the Bible. It is not understood in
the Old Testament because that is a foreshadowing, it is told in a not-altogether
conclusive or immediately evident way. When we come into the New Testament,
and He tells it all about the individual, that’s not what they were looking for. They
were looking for an external Savior, one who would come and destroy a physical
enemy of Israel. So, that’s not it. He comes from within. And this is what was
meant in the very beginning of days. He comes to us as One unknown, but One
who in the most mysterious manner lets the individual experience Who He is. And
when you experience it, you experience it as yourself. You are The One spoken of!

Now, if all things are possible to Him – remember now: You are The One spoken of
in Scripture. And if what I have quoted earlier tonight can be put to the test and
proven in the testing, don’t hesitate to do it. You can speak. You have the two gifts
spoken of by Hermes, and we are told that no mortal creature has it but man, and
these are the gifts of Mind and Speech. So, if you use them rightly, you will differ
in nothing from the gods! And when you drop off the body and you quit it, these
will be your guides. They will lead you into the troop of the gods and into the souls
of those who have attained to bliss. You will have the same mind; you will be using
Mind and you will be using Speech.
So, you will find all through Scripture the words: “And the word of the Lord came
to Jeremiah.” (Jeremiah 1:2, 9, 13; 2:1; 11:1; 14:1; 16:1; 18:1, 21:1; 30:1; 32:1;
33:1; 34:1; 35:1; 40:1; 46:1; 47:1; etc.) “The Word of the Lord came unto Ezekiel.”
(Ezekiel 1:3; 3:16; 6:1; 7:1; 11:14; 13:1; 15:1; 16:1; 17:1; 18:1; etc.) All these are
the Word of the Lord, and you are the one spoken of.
So, tonight in a simple way this is what I would do: I would be brutally frank with
myself, and don’t modify it. If there is no restraint on what God offers, and you
have a desire – nothing is impossible to God. So, know exactly what you want, and
be honest with yourself. Now, if it were true, what would it feel like? And if it were
true, could I restrain the impulse to talk about it? No, I couldn’t. I would have to
tell it.

As we are told in Jeremiah:
“IfI say, ‘I will not mention him,
Orspeak any more in his name,’
There is in my heart as it were a burning fire
Shut up in my bones,
And I am weary with holding it in,
And I cannot.” (Jeremiah 20:9 RSV)

Well, do it! He has to talk about it when he discovers a principle that works and
proves itself in the performance. Now, don’t modify your objective. You know
what you want? Well, that’s it! Now, what would the feeling be like, and what
would I say, and to whom would I say it? Well, now, carry on that conversation
fromthe premise of the wish fulfilled, and try to keep it up until it is natural – feels
natural. When it takes on the tones of reality and the feeling of naturalness, you’ve
got it! The thing is working now.

You can play it over and over as you play a nice record. If you like good music,
you never tire of listening to it. You can play it every day and several times a day
and never tire of good music, if you appreciate it. You could get tired of the bebop, but how could you ever tire of the beautiful classical pieces? I know, I don’t,
so I could listen to them every day, and I do when I am at home. We turn on our
radio to a certain station, and it’s 24 hours a day of classical music – KFAC – with
very little advertising and a small little 3-minute newscast on the hour; and then
throughout the hour – unbroken hour, wonderful music: piano music between 9:00
and 10:00, the Beethovens and the Brahms and the Bachs for one solid hour. I just
enjoy it – feast upon it. Well, you can take a record – your own record – and do
that, and then let it come back into this world bearing fruit.
So,I do hope you will take me seriously. You haven’t a thing to lose and all to
gain. That’s why you are here, and that’s why I have been sent to tell you. There is
a Law, and there is a Promise.
The Promise is going to come, regardless, but while you are waiting for the
Promise, you could make life more comfortable with the use of the Law, because
the Law must be operated. We are the operant power. It will not operate itself. But
the Promise is coming. You can’t stop the Promise.
The Promise is that you are going to be God! That’s the Promise. You are going to
wake up one day and know that you are God, and all the symbolism that confirms
it will stand before you, and then you’ll know Who-You-Are. His Son will call
you, “Father”; and you will know that you are God when His Only Son calls you,
“Father,” you will know that he is your son, and he’ll know that you are his Father.

So, that Promise is coming. But while you wait for the Promise, take the Law and
use it. I quoted very much this night on the Law, which is – the inner
conversations. Use your inner conversations, because if you do, you will have the
salvation of God. And because your former conversations were related to your old
nature, and He tells you to put it off – you can only put off the old nature by
putting off the old conversations, because they are related. The former
conversations were producing the old nature, and if the “nature is the principle
upon which man depends for sameness of form in transmitted life,” the same form
is going to be transmitted until you change the former conversations. When you put
on the new record – the new conversations, you are going to change your world,
and people will meet you and wonder what has happened to you. “Why, he now is
moving in the most marvelous manner! Things are just going perfectly for him.”
Why? He changed his nature. How did he do it? He changed his inner

But do you know, there are people – my mind goes back now to the last war –
Word War II, and this young man – a fine chap, an only child, and he told me quite
innocently that he so hated Roosevelt that in the morning while he was shaving he
told him off. He told him exactly what he thought of him – bawled him out. I said,
“Why do you do it? Don’t you know you are only hurting yourself?” He said, “I
know it. But, oh, if I told you what a thrill I get out of it!” You know, he wouldn’t
change it. He so despised the man – he didn’t know Roosevelt, he didn’t know any
member of the family, but he simply disliked him. And inwardly – not on Mr.
Roosevelt, it worked on him. And he knew what he was doing! If he didn’t know,
that’s one thing, but to know and not do it – that is just the opposite. Well, that is
what he did.
He said, “Why, Neville, the shows on Broadway today are $10 a seat. There is no
show on Broadway that could give me the thrill of those fifteen minutes in the
morning when I shave. He just simply delighted in telling off somebody that he
didn’t even know. And if he thought for one moment he shouldn’t do it, he said,
“Well, let me finish this sentence anyway.” Well, people do that. They know they
are doing the wrong thing, and yet they’ve got to complete the sentence. It’s a
stupid thing.
So,I ask you to try it. But work it radically, and go to the very root and put on the
new record. You can do it! I warned you earlier, it is not the easiest thing in the
world, because we are creatures of habit. But when you catch yourself going back
to the old record, just put on the new record again, and the new one will become
just as easy to play and as natural to play as the old one is now.
Now, let us go into the Silence.

N.G Man Within

THE MAN WITHIN Neville Goddard 24-Jul-1968 San Francisco

Tonight’s subject is: The Man Within. This “Man Within” is Jesus Christ, the image of God, called in Scripture, “The Son of God.” Now, unless this Christ in us is raised to ever higher and higher levels, then God cannot fulfill His purpose. Now, listen to these words carefully, from “A Little Boy Lost” by William Blake. He said: Nought loves another as itself, Nor venerates another so, Nor is it possible to Thought A greater than itself to know. ‘And Father, how can I love you Or any of my brothers more? I love you like the little bird That picks up crumbs around the door.’

If God wants me to know Him as He is, He will have to raise me to the level of His own being. I must become God to know God. If He would have me to venerate Him, He has to raise me to the level of Himself. If He would have me love Him, then He would have to bring me up to the level of God – and we are told: God is love. So, I could not possibly know God, love God, and venerate God unless I am God. If He leaves me as I am, like the little bird around the door, well, that’s the only love I can show for God. That’s the only respect I can have for Him. So, there’s a man in man that is God, and that one has to be raised to the level of God, for God becomes man, that man may become God.

Now, here we are told we are destined in love to be His sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of His will. So the office of Christ, in the Gospel, is that men may become the sons of God through grace, by union with Him who is the Son of God by nature. This is spoken of in Scripture as rebirth – not reincarnation, rebirth – a higher level and a still higher level. We have the discussion, taking place in the third chapter of the book of John. It’s introduced out of the nowhere. Nothing leads up to it. He [Jesus] suddenly turns to a member of the Sanhedrin [Nicodemus], the highest body in the Hebrew world, and he said to him, “You must be born again.” The word translated “again” or “anew” means literally “from above.” Unless you are born from above, you cannot enter the Kingdom of God [John 3:3]; and he [Nicodemus] heard it wondered, How can I, a man – an old man, once more reenter my mother’s womb and be born again?

And He [Jesus] said, “You a master of Israel, and yet you do not know that unless you are born from above, you cannot see the Kingdom of God?” It is not explained, and when you hear it – and I have heard ministers and priests and rabbis discuss it, and they say, “Well, you mean, it’s a change of attitude” – a change of this – a change of that. May I tell you? It is literally true! You are born from above. I speak from experience. I am not speculating; I am not theorizing. I had no idea this thing was so literally true, that man contains within himself this seed that is Christ. He is called the Word of God, and the Word is called the seed. There are three stages in the history of a seed: there is the sowing, there is the dying, and then there is the quickening. The seed is sown upon man. Man hears it with faith, and then it’s planted – it’s sown. Man goes through the fires of hell in this world here, and that is the dying.

A seed must fall into the ground and die before it is made alive. If it does not die, it remains alone; but if it dies, it brings forth much. This is the great mystery of life through death. So, the seed falls: it’s sown. Then it dies, and then it’s raised; it’s quickened. And this is the seed called the Word of God that is Jesus Christ. It’s actually in man. So, you’ve heard the story of God, you’ve heard the story of the Gospel. You either accept or you reject, but unnumbered chances will be given you to hear it and to accept it, because you must accept it eventually, that God’s purpose be fulfilled.

So, everyone will one day completely accept it; and the acceptance will then, in him, prove that he can be raised from the level where he accepted it up to the level where the seed will take him, which is God Himself. So, God becomes man, that man may become God. Now, here I have told it in my own way. Everyone will tell it as he himself experiences it. With different people it appears differently, as everything else does in this world. Now, here is one from the south, in L.A. – how it came in his case. I’m very eager to get everyone to share with me their visions and their dreams, because God speaks to man through the medium of the dream, and unveils Himself through the medium of a vision.

One finds himself at the base of a great tree, and then a winding road leading up; and here, at the top of this winding road is an enormous dog, and the dog is barking at him, but he knows the dog can’t injure him and will not, because he is held by his friend. The friend has no outline of a man, but there’s a radiant light – a fiery light, and he knows it’s his friend in the vision. The man takes the dog on the leash and brings him down and passes this man who is at the base of the tree. When he gets beyond, he looses the dog, but he himself returns to the man at the base of the tree and fuses with him. This radiant fiery being enters him and becomes him; and then he, still not quite sure of the dog, moves like lightning up this winding pathway; and when he arrives at the very top, he says, “At last I’m in the top room.” The dog comes up and licks his face, and then he wakes. This is also told us by a great poet, Francis Thompson, called “The Hound of Heaven.” I chased [fled [1]] him down the nights and down the years, Down through the arches of the years Through the labyrinthine ways of my mind. And he paints this fantastic picture of the Hound, the pursuit of God. And when he comes to the end of the poem, he now takes a rest, and the Voice beside him speaks, and he says: Ah, fondest, blindest, weakest, I am He Whom thou seekest! Thou dravest love from thee, who dravest Me. Now, you and I are seeking God, and we go into unnumbered blind alleys. We think we can find Him through diet, through meditation, through joining a certain “-ism”, through doing this, that and the other.

All these are the blind alleys, for the One we are seeking is within. “Unless you believe that I am He, you [will] die in your sins.” [John 8:24] I can tell you from now to the end of time that when you say, “I am,” that is God and there never was another and never will be another; but can I persuade you? Can I persuade you to stop looking on the outside for what is within – that Man Within, which is I Am? I can talk from now to the end of time in the hope that I will get you at least to try it; but I can’t say that I’ve succeeded. You, and you alone – like my friend who had this vision. He’s been coming for years. This happened here recently. He suddenly began to actually accept the fact that it really is within, and what seemed to come from without did penetrate him, and abides now within him. So the friend took up the place within himself. I call you “Friend.” And, now, he’s no longer a servant, seeking on the outside, now he’s found Him on the inside.

So, here this man, this Man Within that we speak of as Jesus Christ – can only be born from above if I am joined in supernatural union to Him Who is the Son of God by nature. So, when I stood in His presence, it’s an actual union; and don’t be embarrassed – we’re all adults. It’s not a sexual union; you feel no sexual act, but the most fantastic sexual act in the world is like as nothing compared to the ecstasy of the embrace of the Son of God when He embraces you. When you stand in His presence, and He asks you the simplest question in the world: to name the greatest thing in the world, and whether you knew it prior to that moment or not, you are going to answer automatically, for you are fulfilling Scripture. And you are going to say, “Faith, hope and love, these three; but the greatest of these is Love.” At that moment, He embraces you, and you fuse – you actually become one body – one spirit. At that moment, you have had union with the Risen Lord. Now, the seed that I contain within myself bears my image.

Find the appropriate soil in which to plant it, and it will grow into the likeness of myself from which it was taken. You take a sucker from a plant; try to take it from the plant. It participates in the life of the plant, but you take it from the plant and transplant it; it becomes in its turn the parent. So the seed of God is planted in man, and that seed is called Jesus Christ. It bears the express image of His person. So the seed comes to the Womb, which is man. By “man,” I mean generic man. It comes in the form of a story, which is the story of the Gospel, which is the story of God. He desires to raise us to the level where we can appreciate Him, where we can venerate Him, where we can understand Him; but I can’t understand Him on my present level, as He ought to be understood. For, to go back to the poem [“Little Boy Lost” by William Blake]: “Nought loves another as itself.” I can’t. I could sacrifice myself tonight for some one. I would willingly, for my daughter, my wife, my friends. At my age, what does it matter? If I was given no choice but, “either your life or her life,” – no, I don’t think I could hesitate for a second to say, “Well, take this.” But it doesn’t mean because I gave my life to save my wife or my daughter or my friend that I really truly, in the depths of my soul, loved them more than I do myself.

“Nought loves another as itself, Nor venerates another so, Nor is it possible to Thought A greater than itself to know: And Father, how can I love you Or any of my brothers more?” (– how can I?) “I love you like the little bird That picks up crumbs around the door.” You want to venerate You?

Well, then, raise me. If You want me to really understand You and know You?

Well, then, raise me to the level of Your own Being. T

hen I can really love you, because I can’t love anything in this fabulous world as I love myself. If we are big enough to admit it, we’ll admit it. If you say, “Oh, no, I love God more than I love myself,” then define Him for me. And you’ll give me some monstrous thing that I know full well you couldn’t possibly love. You are going to paint something that is not God at all, for God reveals Himself to man within as his own wonderful I-Am-ness. “Go and tell them I AM has sent me unto you. That’s my name forever, and by this name I shall be known throughout all generations.” Well, have you found Him truly as “I Am”? I tell you, the day will come you will find Him just as I Am. And His son will stand before you and call you “father.” And when the son calls you “father,” and you know the truth of this relationship, then you have found God. So, there is no other god. So, He sets up in the beginning that which, when it appears in you, reveals to you that you and the One you call God are one. Until it happens, you will not know truly that you are God. And you will know the truth of the visions of these men like a Blake and a Thompson, and you will not be cynical about it – you won’t question it; you will admit it. Now, you dwell upon it. Do you think it’s possible for “Thought a greater than itself to know”? Can it? Do you really believe that you – the individual here this night – that you could venerate someone more than the thing that you really are?

That it’s possible to love another more than to love self? I tell you, when you dwell upon it and you are brutally frank with yourself and honest, your answer is: “No, I can’t.” Well, now, I admit that there is a Presence that created it all, and I am, relative to this Presence, like the little bird around the door. But I would like to know Him. I’d like to know Him so I can show my appreciation and my love. Well, then, raise me. Raise me up to Your level, that I may know You as You are. Raise me up to Your level, that I may venerate You as You ought to be venerated. Raise me up, that I may love You as you ought to be loved. And, so, He has a plan. God chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, and destined us in love to be his sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of His will. “Through Jesus Christ,” – well, now, that’s the seed. He tells us that this is the Word of God, and the Word is the seed, and the seed is planted on man; but man becomes the soil to receive that seed, and he receives it; and then it dies – it dies in him. He walks the earth wondering, Where is the one that I’m supposed to find? And suddenly it erupts within Him, and that moment of eruption, no one knows when it’s going to happen. It’s like a woman taken at the very last moment – she doesn’t know it, and suddenly she gives birth. And man is then “born from above.” From that moment on, you see everything differently. You see God in an entirely different light – no longer on the outside. You’ve found Him, and you’ve found Him within, and you can tell others, and there are a few among the others that you speak to who will call you mad or call you blasphemous. It doesn’t really matter to you. You only hope they will accept Him. They may turn from you and say, “He’s the most arrogant person I’ve ever met.” It’s perfectly all right, because when you have the experience, you know in your heart that they are going to have it, too. And when they have it, you’ll be far removed from them in time and space, but eventually you will meet. There will be no bragging, no boasting because you preceded them into the Kingdom, because in the Kingdom they are all equal.

So, when they come, they come as brothers; and then you will know the words: “Nought loves a brother more.” When he comes, because he’s had the same experience that he has found God, and he has found himself in finding God, and you’ve found yourself in finding God, then you are one. And you know the words of John: “And I dwell in them, and they dwell in me, and we are one, Father,” as you and I are one. And may they know that You have sent me, and love them as Thou lovest me.” Only one. So, here, this Man Within – you actually feel Him, and you find Him, although you are clothed thereafter in the same garment of flesh, and you answer to the name they all know you by. So, they call you John, and you respond. But you know in your heart of hearts who you really are, but in the world of Caesar you bear a name, and the name is John or the name is Mary, or any other name, and to that name you respond. But within yourself, having had the experience, you know who you are! And those who come to you, you know they couldn’t possibly come unless the Father within you called them. And, so, you are calling one after one after one because they are all beginning to awake when they are coming to you. For if you have awakened, then those whom you are calling are on the verge of waking! So, I can say number down in L.A. that dozens and dozens are having the experience of the birth from above. Every Monday and Friday are my two nights, and in that audience dozens are having it, but they have it differently, as they have everything else differently. We all are unique in this world, though the birth is the same; but when it takes place, the symbolism alters somewhat. The imagery changes somewhat. But it’s all towards the awakening and the unfolding of the GodWithin-Us.

So, when we are told, “Christ in you is the hope of glory,” it’s an actual fact – when I speak of Christ in you as the hope of glory. Now, in Scripture, when I tell ministers and rabbis and priests the story, they look at me as though to say, “What on earth did you ever study?” “Where is your theology?” “Did you go to any college to study it?” “Well, I never heard that in school when I studied theology!” Well, as far as I’m concerned, it is not something I studied in a book. I never heard it from a man, never read it in a book. It was by revelation. If it doesn’t fit what you have heard, I would ask you to consider it anyway, because you have heard it from a man. How do you know what you heard from man was revelation? Could it not be the traditions of men where men sat down to conceive and compose what they consider a workable philosophy of life, and this they considered the right thing, and then they gave it out as vision. But it isn’t a vision at all. I am telling you what I’ve actually had by revelation. By “revelation,” I mean God unveiling Himself in me as me. And, so, when I tell you that Jesus Christ is God the Father, you will say, “No, he is God the Son.” I’m telling you, He is God the Father. And as God the Father, He has to have a son, for He would not be a father without a son. Then you say, “But Jesus Christ has no son. He is the Son of God.” And I tell you – He is God Himself. And God being a father, He has to have a son. Now, I’ll tell you who His son is. And this always startles them. His son is David. David of Biblical fame, that’s the son of the Lord Jesus Christ.

They’d go through the ceiling, they are so afraid of what I’m talking about. Then I turn to Scripture and say, now to whom are these words addressed? They are taken from the Second Psalm. “And David said, I will tell of the decree of the Lord. He said unto me, Thou art my son. Today I have begotten thee.” Do you want to know where you’ll find it? In the Second Psalm, the 7th verse, there you’ll find it, written one thousand years B.C. Here is a blueprint of what man is going to experience, for the whole story is the story of Christ. So, the whole thing is foretold until the time is fulfilled when God begins to awake within man. Well, if God is a father, then show me his son.

It’s stated in the Second Psalm who His son must be when he appears to reveal God to man – and he appears in man. Now, in the books of Luke and Matthew there was no reason to bring it up if you read the chapter carefully. Take the 29th chapter of the book of Luke, or the 22nd of the book of Matthew; and here they are discussing something entirely different. The Sadducees said to him, “Master, Moses in the law said that if a man marries and dies leaving no offspring, and he has a brother, the brother should marry the widow and raise up offspring for the brother. Now, there were seven brothers. One married. The first married, and he died leaving no offspring. The second took her; he died, leaving no offspring. Then the third took her, and eventually all married her, and finally all dies, and then she died, and there was no offspring. Tell me, whose wife is she in the resurrection?” Now, the question was asked by the Sadducees. We are told, the Sadducees were of the ancient world what the modern agnostic or atheist, or the extreme scientist who is looking for tangible proof of the existence of God, or something in man that could survive cremation. You cremate the body, and you see it turn to dust. What on earth could survive that? So, the mind who entertains that thought is called the Sadducee in Scripture. Not believing in the resurrection, he asks the question, and this is the answer: “The sons of this age marry, and they are given in marriage, but those who are accounted worthy to attain to That Age and to the Resurrection from the dead, they neither marry, nor are they given in marriage, for they can die no more.

They are now sons of the resurrection, therefore sons of God,” – implying until that takes place in man, man, as he appears to die isn’t really dead. He is restored to life to continue the journey, and he dies again; restored, continues the journey, and dies again; not reincarnation – not what the world talks about reincarnation, but simply restoration, continuing in a body just like this, just as before, in a world, terrestrial just like this, aging just as we do here, making our departure from that world as we do here, but that world is part of this world. He only speaks of two ages. So, my world here does not terminate at the point where my senses cease to register it. So, I meet someone at this very moment. They drop dead, I go to their funeral; I see the dust. They give me a little urn. She was turned into little ashes. But I can’t touch her now, I can’t talk to her, I can’t see her; but that world does not end. It doesn’t terminate at that point in time where my senses cease to register it. She is restored in a body just as before, new – not a baby, but new – young, not a thing missing. It’s unaccountably new! She continues her journey, and she marries, as she did here and she lives her life there as she lived it here; and she matures and grows old, and she dies there as she died here, to find herself restored once more to continue the journey, just as before, no loss of identity. Then comes this moment in time where man is “born from above.”

As he is born from above, he goes through the series of events leading up to the discovery of the Fatherhood of God, which is himself! Then he departs this age forever; he no longer is restored to life. When men call him “dead,” he has entered the Kingdom of God, and his body is not the body of flesh and blood, for it cannot enter the Kingdom of God. That body is the body of Glory, his immortal body that cannot die. Everyone has that body, awaiting the discovery of the Fatherhood of God, and he discovers it within himself when God’s Son calls him, “Father.” Now, after the discussion with the Sadducees, he brings up a point, and it’s not at all related to the chapter, either the 22nd of Matthew or the 20th of Luke, where you find the story. After he answers the Sadducees, he then asks the question: “What think ye of the Christ? Whose son is he?” For tradition had it that he was the son of David; so they answered, “The son of David.” Then he comes back and says, “Why, then, did David in the spirit call him, Lord? If David thus calls him, My Lord, how can he be David’s son?” so he discounts the fact that he is David’s son. He doesn’t tell them, but he does tell them, David called him, My Lord. Well, the ancient son always spoke of his father as “my lord,” – always referred to his father as “my lord.” So, he is telling you in his own wonderful mystical way who David is relative to him. David is his son! That is set up in the beginning in the Second Psalm, David calls him, “Father.” The 89th Psalm makes the statement: “I have found David,” [Psalm 89:20] and “He has cried unto me, Thou art my father, my God and the Rock of my salvation.” [Psalm 89:26] Now, these are mysteries, but the mysteries of Scripture are not matters to be kept secret. They are truths that are mysterious in character.

So, when you read it and you take it as secular history you’ll never get the point. Read it carefully, dwell upon it, and try to understand, “What is he trying to get at in this point?” Well, he is trying to reveal who he is. He tells now in the book of John when someone said to him – Philip said to him, “Master,” – or, he calls him “Lord,” – he said, “Show us the Father, and we will be satisfied. He said I have been so long with you, and yet you do not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father. How, then, can you say, Show us the Father?” [John 14:8-9] He tells you he’s the Father. In spite of that, after two thousand years of theology – which is not really theology in the true sense of the word, which is the knowledge of God, for what the world would imply – it is nothing more than the traditions of men. Man has a certain set concept of what God ought to have done, and he teaches it as theology, ordaining people, and out they go to continue the lie. For it’s not based upon the truth of Scripture.

Some lady came to me once, about six weeks ago. At the end of the meeting she came forward.

She said, “I will take your theories under consideration.” I said, “Well, thank you very much.” Then she said to me, “You know, I’m an ordained minister.”

I said, “That’s very nice.” She said, “Are you ordained?”

I said, “Not by man, no. Undoubtedly you were ordained by a man, weren’t you?” She said, “By a minister.” “Well, was he a man?” “Oh, yes.” “Well, then, he was a man, and you call him a minister. Well, all right, he was a minister, and he’s a man.

Let me tell you, they are not theories. You say you will take my theories under consideration. I speak from experience. I

’m not speculating. I’m not theorizing.” I am telling you what I know from experience; and that which a man knows from experience he knows more thoroughly than he knows anything else in this world, or than he can know that same thing in any other way. Now, you’ve heard me tonight, and you call it a theory. You can’t deny that you heard it; therefore, you can say, well I know what he said; but you know it as hearsay.

You don’t know it from experience. The day will come; you will know what I’m saying to be true, because you will know it from experience. Until you have experienced it, it is still only to you theory – something that someone said, and it’s hearsay. So, you are going to go home and take it under consideration. Well, you go and take it under consideration. Now, one day in God’s infinite mercy, He will unveil Himself within you; and you will find that you, in spite of your present sex, will be God the Father. And it will not embarrass you.

Although you now wear the garment of a woman, you will find that you are really the Eternal Man, and that Eternal Man is God. God is man. And I’m telling you, I know that from experience. You stand in the presence of Infinite Love, and it’s Man. He wants me to know Him? All right, raise me as that same Man. Don’t leave me on the level of the bird, where I can only see You through the eyes of the bird and be satisfied with the crumbs – not knowing that He will throw the crumbs out, that you were grateful to get the crumbs – I’m not even grateful for them. I take them, because they are, and you gave me the appetite as a man to eat them; so I ate them, but I do not know where they came from, and I’m not concerned. I’m a bird. So, we go into the field, and we reap our harvest; and we don’t even know how it came into being. If we planted a little corn, we have an ear of corn. We do not know the mystery behind the growth of the corn; and so I cannot know You until You raise me to His level Who grew the corn, and then I will know.

Until then, I am simply the bird “feeding on the crumbs around the door.” “For nought can know, and – Nought loves another as itself, Or venerates another so, Nor is it possible for Thought A greater than itself to know.”

So, Father, You want me to know YOU? Lift me up. Well, He has made a plan. The plan is contained in what He calls Jesus Christ. He has made known unto me the purpose – His purpose – which is set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time. Well, if Christ is in us, then the plan is in us! For He said He set forth the plan in Christ for the fullness of time. So, when that time comes, then it erupts and the shell is broken, and all that is contained in the plan comes forward in a first-person present-tense experience, and then we know who we are. Then it doesn’t matter after that when we depart this life. Whether we go this moment or ten years from now, it doesn’t really matter.

We feel like Paul: “I wish I could, moment after moment, depart,” said he. “I desire to depart and be with Christ. That’s far, far better; but, for your sake, it is better that I remain, and tell you of the Word of God.” [Phili 1:21-26] But he desired to depart. Having fulfilled Scripture, what else can you do? There’s not a thing in this world for man to do but to fulfill Scripture – not to build on the sands of time, for all things vanish, but to fulfill Scripture. So, when Scripture is fulfilled in man, he has not a thing left, but to tell it; and he will find those who are eager to hear it, those who will turn a deaf ear to it, but it doesn’t really matter. In the fullness of time, who don’t turn their backs upon it will eagerly seek it, and then it will come. Someone else will carry on, and, they will plant the seed and they will pick it up.

So, here, this Man Within is the same man spoken of in Scripture that carries the plan of God – the pattern, and that is Christ Jesus. “Christ in us is the hope of glory.” And, so, he contains the pattern. He is the pattern man. Paul, in his letter to Timothy said, “Hold fast the pattern of the true word which you heard from me,” [2 Tim 1:13] for he told the story as he himself experienced it; as he stated in Galatians, and said, “If any man changes one word of it, let him be accursed, for this is not something I composed; this wasn’t taught it by a man. It came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.” [Gal 1: 9, 11-12] So, I am telling you who you really are. You are God, keyed low – to the level of the bird feeding on crumbs; but within you is a pattern, and that pattern is contained in the seed of God, and that seed is Jesus Christ. It is as much the seed of God, in the true sense of the word, as my sperm contains my image. And finding the proper womb in which to place it, my image will come out and be projected on the screen of space.

But God found in us the proper womb, and He buried through Jesus Christ His pattern. So, I say it is His purpose, His office, to actually turn men into sons of God by grace, through union with Him who is the Son of God by nature. Now, here is the perfect seed of God, called Jesus Christ. Buried in me, it sort of takes a graft; and like the little sucker of the plant, although it lives upon the tree, until detached, and partakes of the life of the tree, when once detached and transplanted, it becomes in its turn the parent. So, he takes his seed and transplants it, engrafts it into man; and then that transplant in its good time becomes the parent, and the parent is God the Father; and, therefore, the same son that called Him “Father,” must call me “father.” Then I will know that I am He; and there is no other way of knowing it. “No one knows who the Father is but the Son, and no one knows who the Son is but the Father.” [Luke 10:22] Well, if no one in this world knows who the son is but the Father, then show me my son. Show me my Father, and when He comes, I’m He!

So, the Old Testament ends upon the note: “If a son honors his father, and I am a father, where is my honor?” [Mal 1:6] In other words, where is my son? You read that in the first chapter of the last book of the Old Testament, the book of Malachi. “Where is my son?” Now, you turn over the pages, and the New Testament gives the answer, for here is the Son and he comes; but the whole book is a sealed book – completely sealed, and no one knew how to break the seal, for it’s broken from within, it’s not broken from without. So this Being of whom I speak, which is the Being of whom you have heard time and time again as something external to yourself, is really the seed of God, the sperm God planted in you. Therefore, if Mary carries the sperm of God to bear this Heavenly creature, then you must be Mary! For, you’re carrying the sperm of God. So, in this very body – I don’t mean this body of flesh and blood, but in that Something-Within, I bear, and have borne, the Son of God. He came out and stood before me and called me, “Father.”

Now, let us go into the Silence.